Wow I’m shocked to see there is actually a Jewish person willing to admit these truths and stand by every word. A master class article. May Allah grant you the strength and will to continue writing the truth about the views and criminal acts of the Jewish people. Hopefully your article can change some of them.
There are thousands of us who hold the same political views. I personally disagree with the ethnic cleansing of anyone, including of Jews in Palestine, but I do support total decolonisation, and incentives to remove and resettle Jewish Israelis who cannot live without supremacy. But I don’t think any country would be wise to accept them en masse. And the only countries that could be persuaded are vulnerable countries of the global south, which is imperialist colonisation by another name and mechanism, and will bring untold misery.
Does this apply to all non-indigenous people everywhere? Or do you think that the genocide in Palestine is more worthy of atonement than the genocides in the Americas and Australia and on the African continent?
Your question is the equivalent of Zionists who yell "Why do you focus on Israel, such a small country? Why don't you focus on the starvation in this palce, or the genocide in that place or that place. " Are you having trouble focusing on the task of killing zionism within Judaism, as the writer teaches? That's the task. All the rest is commentary. The writer deals with the important questions. The state has to be dismantled. The thieves have to give back the stolen goods. If there's no place that isn't stolen they have to go find another place to live. The Jews have taken on Zionism, and they must give it up. Are you aware of the penance that the German people did for Nazism in the decades after WW2. Mucho penance. And are you aware the the German people mounted a much more vigorous and violent resistance to Nazism than Israeli (or North American) Jews have to the genocide. Keep your eye on the ball. You have a tendency to get sidetracked, and then you try to sidetrack others.
Rubbish. Israel deserves selective focus and condemnation because it is the most consistently vile and vicious entity on the planet. All I require is consistency. If Jewish colonial settlers need to return stolen goods, then all colonial settlers must do the same. You’re having problems with this because you want one group of colonial settlers to do what you don’t think others should have to do. I don’t have any allegiance to Zionism, nor to Israel, nor to any Jewish community. I am not motivated by any attachment to Judaism either. I just expect the consistent application of morality.
I'm going to stop conversing with you. I don't enjoy it and I don't think it's important or productive. The article is great. You are distracting. Like I said, you get sidetracked, and I don't want to get sidetracked by you anymore. The article doesn't need your self-congratulatory amemdments. Be well. You're on the right side.
Don’t forget that the British and the French, with agreement from a couple of other countries after WWI, carved up parts of the conquered “Middle East” to give to the Jews. Arabs would not accept displaced Palestinians or support them. Zionists became strong with the backing of countries that thought land would be the answer to “the Jewish question.”
I am Jewish and anti Zionist just like my grandparents and mother who escaped Vienna in 1938 were.
One does not need to voice support for terrorism anywhere whether it is by right-wing Americans, Hamas, or Zionists. One bad turn does not deserve another.
Are you replying to me or someone else? Did you hear me express support for terrorism? Did you hear me say anything about the investment the capitalists made into the nascent Israel? Cuz I didn’t. Maybe you were replying to someone else . I’m just getting lots of notifications and i’m much more interested in the article than these discussions.
Actually, my position is morally and politically consistent. Firstly , if one settler colony must be depopulated of its settlers, then all must be. Which is of course impossible even if only because people do not remain in discrete ethnic lanes. Secondly, one crime does not justify another, and in fact risks creating a cascade of ugly consequences.
People find themselves in countries not of their birth, and often not of their choosing, for many reasons. Should all immigrants, including refugees, no longer have security of residency or citizenship in their adopted countries?
Jewish Israelis with dual passports should imo be required to remove themselves. These are mostly those of Ashkenazi heritage. But Israel is the most unequal country in the OECD (or some such group, I can’t remember exactly). There’s a large population of marginalised and disadvantaged Jews of West Asian and North African heritage whose families were tricked or coerced into migration, or were expelled in retaliation for Israel’s crimes. They were treated like dirt by the Ashkenazi elite and yearned to return to their home countries but never had the opportunity. Where should they go?
The problem with Jews in Palestine is not that they’re Jewish but that they’ve been indoctrinated into supremacism. The Jewish population will at least halve when the West Bank colonies are eventually evacuated, and hopefully tens of thousands of others will accept resettlement where they won’t be allowed to form cancerous little colonies. The mechanisms through which Jewish supremacy was maintained will be dismantled.
Salman Abu-Sittah has done amazing work on how Palestinian return can work. Apparently most Palestinian villages are potentially recoverable, and obviously Palestinians homes must be returned to their owners. Obviously the new configuration of Palestine must be decided by Palestinians but, interestingly enough, they don’t seem to advocate ethnic cleansing of the Jewish population.
I’d love to be able to turn back the clock. Undo colonisation. Undo genocides. Undo displacements. Undo the Christian church and capitalism. But it’s not possible. And wanting to create a new reality through upheaval and forced displacement reveals a deeply twisted worldview.
Yeah, thoughtful analysis is a bitch. Much easier to run with heady polemic. Btw you have no argument so you resort to insult. Classic Zionist move. I know you’re not a Zionist, but you certainly aren’t the radical you think you are, or you’d have something substantive to say to counter my position. As Tattoo Dave would say, Get in the bin!
girl what? oh my god i’d be embarrassed if i were you. you know nothing about me and are the one resorting to criticism??? i know the truth is hard but my role as an arab isn’t to debate or discuss your privileged little thoughts. hop
The Catholic Church, not modern Israel or unbelieving Jews, is the New Israel (Galatians 6:16, “the Israel of God”). The Old Covenant was fulfilled and superseded by the New Covenant in Christ’s Blood. The Church teaches that the Old Law has ceased with the coming of Christ.
Pope St. Pius X, when asked by a Zionist in 1904 whether the Church recognizes the Jewish people, replied:
“The Jewish religion was the true religion until the coming of Christ; but since that time it has ceased to be.”
— Pope St. Pius X
Therefore, to bless the true “Israel” today means to support the Church and remain faithful to Christ, not to give political or religious approval to those who reject the Messiah.
Do you think I care about your religion? Why would I? Not interesting in your Christ stuff. It’s yours. Not mine. Go preach somewhere else. I could care less.
They aren't antiZionist in the way you are and want to equate them. They are against the state of Israel being formed by men and not by Moshiach. That is a big difference from your claims.
Nope. I’m a member of three Jewish groups, one an international organisation, and I’m aware of at least two other international Jewish organisations, that are absolutely antizionist. Plus it’s utterly irrelevant what Judaism says about the messiah. Worry about the Christians. Their fundamentalist Evangelicals, tens of millions of US voters, want their messiah so badly that they actively seek to precipitate the Apocalypse, which is why they support the war on Iran. We antizionist Jews in the diaspora are just fine without a supremacist settler colony in Palestine.
Yes I agree with you, apparently you must not be too familiar with their community though. The majority of the Israeli community are extremely un apologetically racist and extreme. Hence my shock to the article i read.
There are a great many Jewish people that recognize and comfortably discuss these truths. Unfortunately there are many, perhaps more, who were brainwashed as kids and have accordingly made no effort to understand the true history of Israel's brutality. And I kind of understand that. It is is a big deal to realize that many of the people one respected as kids were either lying or simply repeating the same propaganda by which they'd previously been poisoned.
Cannot change Gods words Nick. It’s not Islam thats the problem. If Islam wasn’t tolerant of other religions then why are there churches and synagogues all over West Asia and Africa that are 1500 plus years old. You poor fella you have been so indoctrinated by main stream media. You might need to take a class on the real history of the world. Not the one thats been written by pedophiles and Baal worshippers.Zionism attacks everything and leaves nothing to spare. Humanity itself is at risk!!!
The Quran isn't the word of God, I'm sorry to tell you.
Islam destroyed or replaced 90% of Christians, Jews and other religious groups in the middle east. Islam is the opposite of peaceful. You don't even know your own history.
Humanity is at risk from militant Islam. Not zionism, lol.
Allah isnt real. She is a delusional freak just like you who doesnt want peace but wants more dead palestinians for the 0.1 percent chancs they ethnically cleanse all israelis
there are some Jews who hold to these truths, and some of those are excellent journalists: Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate and his brother and father, Katie Halper, and Norm Finkelstein to name a few.
Thank you! It is what a lot of people believe now and attitudes to the Jews will not change until the Jews stand up and do whatever it takes to ensure they do not go down in history as Zionist pigs. This responsibility rests on no one else's shoulders and continuing to cry 'antisemitism!' will only make this thing worse. Nobody with a sense of humanity, decency and justice cares about this 'antisemitism' thing anymore. If anything, if has become a compliment. So thank you again for saying out loud what I believe a majority of humanity feels.
I have no connection with Germany since 1886, haha, but I do register how automatically you revert to the race thing. Classic Zio move. Every accusation is a confession.
Haha... yeah, the west is so aware of the holodomor... that's why every major city has a museum of the holodomor, the school curriculum is full of facts about it and it has its own annual remembrance day... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Next time you're out, pick few random people on the street and ask them about it... see how much they know.
And please... that's why "we waged the cold war" 😂😂😂 ... Firstly, the cold war was never waged, because... surprise, surprise - it wasn't a war but a platform for conducting social experiments on your own populations controlled at a level way beyond Washington and Moscow. Secondly - the mass extermination of people by the bolsheviks had nothing to do with it. And why would it?
Jeez... how can you people be so misinformed about so much. 🤦♂️ Your entire understanding of history is a series of pictures on TV screen.
Do you have anything else to contribute, other than ad hominem labels? Guess not. After all, that's pretty much the entire basis for the holocaust narrative - fairytales (aka "witness testimonies") and outright dismissal of any counter arguments.
you interpreted one part of what they said without gathering the whole comment for context.
i interpreted their “to be called an antisemite nowadays is basically a compliment” to mean this: Zionists are blatantly using the word antisemite/antisemitism to label any person who rejects and demonizes Zionism, when morally it is Zionism which is evil. many famous people throughout history have been called an antisemite because they openly spoke out against the apartheid and genocide that’s killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians since the ‘70s. it is a compliment to be called an antisemite ONLY for the people who know that they are vilified with that label by white supremacist / Zionist groups trying to preserve the colonization legacy.
to be called a term you dont deserve by the evil group youre speaking out against means that you are doing the right thing, the ethical thing.
Thanks for your patient explanation! I’m pretty sure he got it, but in the zio conflation game it’s all the same thing. Conceptual analysis is not their thing: hasbara bullying is all that counts.
if you want to talk to people like that, go back to twitter or 4chan. this aint the place for ignorance, nor is it home to people not looking to learn & gain many perspectives to see the big picture. you can keep that narrowness on threads or wherever you came from.
I’d rather be called anti-Semitic than being called a genocidal maniac supporting a depraved society and enjoys watching the IOF blowing up and raping detainees. But I guess priorities eh?
The more desperate they get the more cuss words they use because obviously they don’t have enough vocabulary. Haha. Keep on cussing. You’re turning the whole world “anti-Semitic”. You know who’s also Semitic? Palestinians. Haha
Being called anti Semitic has become an over used Zionist trope. That slur has lost all meaning. It’s a compliment in the sense that being slurred by a Zio Nazi is an indication they are resorting to name calling.
A big read but worth it. You’re right. I love my Jewish friends who feel the same but they are a small minority. I have an increasing intolerance for Jews living in Australia supporting Israel’s genocide and crimes against humanity.
Thank you so so much for this. So much of what you wrote are exactly how I’ve felt, but without knowing how to say it. Thank you for your fierce eloquence and moral clarity.
Oh man, thank you a million times for this pure truth! I'm not Jewish but wondered about what it was/is for years. Growing up in the belly of the beast, I was often confused about whether or not it was a religion, or a country, or both. None of it made sense, much like my so-called education in Amerikkka that propagated the same bullshit lies regarding our origins. Fast forward to October 7th, and the layers of propaganda began to peel away at a faster rate. But with this particular writing, another very important lie has been revealed, and I can't thank you enough. Prior to reading this, I was also saying to myself--"there's a difference between jews and zionists..." in part because it seemed to make sense at the time. A couple of your statements made me realize that for Jews to just say that they are distinct from zionists...this is a form of idealism (the belief that what you say, or tell yourself, becomes the reality--something the entire US empire suffers from). And as such, it is delusional. It can only become materially true if and when jews use their bodies to fight against zionism. Some other thoughts that come to mind after reading this: doesn't this also mean that us white americans need to also physically put ourselves on the line, and help destroy the empire?! For anyone reading this, please go to uate.net. Thanks again for waking me up to the material world, the importance of basing our actions on that material world (because it is primary), and how we must fight against idealism. If these terms are confusing to anyone reading this (idealism vs materialism), educate yourself (Marx, Lenin, etc). It's very important.
She probably is risking her life by publishing this article given the fanaticism of the Zio Nazis. You on the other hand have just demonstrated her point about liberal “anti-Zionists”.
There is no difference. They share the same supremacist ideology that they are God's chosen people, and this God has instructed them to commit genocide many times already. So fuck you. You are the same.
We’re somehow forgetting that Christian Zionists are majority of the problem here (especially in the USA where everyone likes to bring up politicians and AIPAC). While their beliefs are rooted in antisemitism rather than supremacy, they’re aligned, just like Herzl said they needed to be to bring legitimacy to the settler colonial state of Israel. Zionists *want* everyone to conflate Zionism and Judaism, and it’s doing the world a monumental disservice to do so. Not only does that give rise to genuine antisemitism but it lends legitimacy to the idea of Israel needing to “defend itself” and provide a place of refuge for Jewish people. That’s why I will always die on the hill that we shouldn’t lean into Nazi rhetoric and make sure the framing is on Zionists (aka Jewish supremacists) and NOT Jewish people.
if the author is not correct in any way, then why are you so defensive? i mean, if in fact there is a difference between zio's and jews, then why not just go on about whatever it is you do, and ignore her thesis? I think you are missing her point completely, and, there's a part of you that KNOWS she is correct. Until the people in group A (jews) militantly fight against the people in group B (zio genocider maniacs), the two will be forever linked. Zio's use the jewish religion and the holocaust all the time to justify their actions--case in point. there has to be a real distinction made, and not just with words. and you're right, others also need to take up arms. the question then becomes, how, exactly.
Would you make the same argument about all Muslims being obligated to stand up to injustice that exist in the Muslim world? How about all Christian Zionists? What responsibility do they have? If you live in the US, or any Western nation, you benefit from historical genocide and ethnic cleansing. What are you doing to make penance for your entitlement? This is the type of guilt ridden post that puts the onus of action on other people, while placing themselves on a pedestal. Nothing is stopping the author from moving to the West Bank and being the type of activist she is calling on everyone else to be.
do you know that for sure? that there is nothing that is stopping her? maybe she’s talking more about collective and militant action from all jewish synagogues and organizations. that’s my take. for my penance, i’m continuing to educate myself because that’s a long road. i’ve also joined this group: uate.net, who has a VERY specific and detailed plan of action, like no other leftist group i’ve encountered or joined in the past. in a way, you make a good point. i think we are all in the bad habit of wanting “other people” to do the dirty work. or wanting other people to do the organizing. on the other hand, isn’t that her point, or at least part of it. like you say, if we as westerners are benefiting from these genocides, and we are, isn’t it time we realize that fact, and take action. stop talking about it. and actually do something? the fact that you, or I, “feel” guilty is irrelevant. all that matters is what we do.
I see many Jews protest the genocide, but not necessarily the existence of Israel. The existence of Israel is WHY the genocide happened. Israel’s existence was an oppressive colonial project from the very start. Free Palestine forever 🇵🇸
Israel exists because their religion fundamentally believes they are superior, God's chosen people. It can never be tolerated to exist for this reason.
As a white person I think the same can be said for white guilt and career activists of my persuassion as well. There is nothing Israel has done that we as americans and english and french and german etc have not also done. I want more white people to stand on business like you have here
You are the first Jew who is publicly saying that on my Substack feed. I wonder if it’s possible. It’s like whiteness for white people meaning people benefit somehow from this ideology.
Wow I’m shocked to see there is actually a Jewish person willing to admit these truths and stand by every word. A master class article. May Allah grant you the strength and will to continue writing the truth about the views and criminal acts of the Jewish people. Hopefully your article can change some of them.
This applies to every single American as well. I speak as a queer person who is also a minority with an American passport
There are thousands of us who hold the same political views. I personally disagree with the ethnic cleansing of anyone, including of Jews in Palestine, but I do support total decolonisation, and incentives to remove and resettle Jewish Israelis who cannot live without supremacy. But I don’t think any country would be wise to accept them en masse. And the only countries that could be persuaded are vulnerable countries of the global south, which is imperialist colonisation by another name and mechanism, and will bring untold misery.
Michelle Berkon, If it's too difficult to find somewhere to live that isn't stolen they could commit mass suicide in atonement.
Does this apply to all non-indigenous people everywhere? Or do you think that the genocide in Palestine is more worthy of atonement than the genocides in the Americas and Australia and on the African continent?
Your question is the equivalent of Zionists who yell "Why do you focus on Israel, such a small country? Why don't you focus on the starvation in this palce, or the genocide in that place or that place. " Are you having trouble focusing on the task of killing zionism within Judaism, as the writer teaches? That's the task. All the rest is commentary. The writer deals with the important questions. The state has to be dismantled. The thieves have to give back the stolen goods. If there's no place that isn't stolen they have to go find another place to live. The Jews have taken on Zionism, and they must give it up. Are you aware of the penance that the German people did for Nazism in the decades after WW2. Mucho penance. And are you aware the the German people mounted a much more vigorous and violent resistance to Nazism than Israeli (or North American) Jews have to the genocide. Keep your eye on the ball. You have a tendency to get sidetracked, and then you try to sidetrack others.
Rubbish. Israel deserves selective focus and condemnation because it is the most consistently vile and vicious entity on the planet. All I require is consistency. If Jewish colonial settlers need to return stolen goods, then all colonial settlers must do the same. You’re having problems with this because you want one group of colonial settlers to do what you don’t think others should have to do. I don’t have any allegiance to Zionism, nor to Israel, nor to any Jewish community. I am not motivated by any attachment to Judaism either. I just expect the consistent application of morality.
I'm going to stop conversing with you. I don't enjoy it and I don't think it's important or productive. The article is great. You are distracting. Like I said, you get sidetracked, and I don't want to get sidetracked by you anymore. The article doesn't need your self-congratulatory amemdments. Be well. You're on the right side.
Don’t forget that the British and the French, with agreement from a couple of other countries after WWI, carved up parts of the conquered “Middle East” to give to the Jews. Arabs would not accept displaced Palestinians or support them. Zionists became strong with the backing of countries that thought land would be the answer to “the Jewish question.”
I am Jewish and anti Zionist just like my grandparents and mother who escaped Vienna in 1938 were.
One does not need to voice support for terrorism anywhere whether it is by right-wing Americans, Hamas, or Zionists. One bad turn does not deserve another.
Are you replying to me or someone else? Did you hear me express support for terrorism? Did you hear me say anything about the investment the capitalists made into the nascent Israel? Cuz I didn’t. Maybe you were replying to someone else . I’m just getting lots of notifications and i’m much more interested in the article than these discussions.
what an awful take on your end. you can’t pick and choose like you are. use your privilege wisely
Actually, my position is morally and politically consistent. Firstly , if one settler colony must be depopulated of its settlers, then all must be. Which is of course impossible even if only because people do not remain in discrete ethnic lanes. Secondly, one crime does not justify another, and in fact risks creating a cascade of ugly consequences.
People find themselves in countries not of their birth, and often not of their choosing, for many reasons. Should all immigrants, including refugees, no longer have security of residency or citizenship in their adopted countries?
Jewish Israelis with dual passports should imo be required to remove themselves. These are mostly those of Ashkenazi heritage. But Israel is the most unequal country in the OECD (or some such group, I can’t remember exactly). There’s a large population of marginalised and disadvantaged Jews of West Asian and North African heritage whose families were tricked or coerced into migration, or were expelled in retaliation for Israel’s crimes. They were treated like dirt by the Ashkenazi elite and yearned to return to their home countries but never had the opportunity. Where should they go?
The problem with Jews in Palestine is not that they’re Jewish but that they’ve been indoctrinated into supremacism. The Jewish population will at least halve when the West Bank colonies are eventually evacuated, and hopefully tens of thousands of others will accept resettlement where they won’t be allowed to form cancerous little colonies. The mechanisms through which Jewish supremacy was maintained will be dismantled.
Salman Abu-Sittah has done amazing work on how Palestinian return can work. Apparently most Palestinian villages are potentially recoverable, and obviously Palestinians homes must be returned to their owners. Obviously the new configuration of Palestine must be decided by Palestinians but, interestingly enough, they don’t seem to advocate ethnic cleansing of the Jewish population.
I’d love to be able to turn back the clock. Undo colonisation. Undo genocides. Undo displacements. Undo the Christian church and capitalism. But it’s not possible. And wanting to create a new reality through upheaval and forced displacement reveals a deeply twisted worldview.
you’re complicating this too much. liberal centrism will get you nowhere.
Yeah, thoughtful analysis is a bitch. Much easier to run with heady polemic. Btw you have no argument so you resort to insult. Classic Zionist move. I know you’re not a Zionist, but you certainly aren’t the radical you think you are, or you’d have something substantive to say to counter my position. As Tattoo Dave would say, Get in the bin!
girl what? oh my god i’d be embarrassed if i were you. you know nothing about me and are the one resorting to criticism??? i know the truth is hard but my role as an arab isn’t to debate or discuss your privileged little thoughts. hop
off your high horse wow
Many observant Jews are anti-Zionist and have been since the beginning.
“Do not covet your neighbor’s land.” -Moses
It’s Jewish land. We’re not coveting. Your Bible quote is stupid. And it’s not Moses. The quote you mis used is from G-d. Not Moses.
The Catholic Church, not modern Israel or unbelieving Jews, is the New Israel (Galatians 6:16, “the Israel of God”). The Old Covenant was fulfilled and superseded by the New Covenant in Christ’s Blood. The Church teaches that the Old Law has ceased with the coming of Christ.
Pope St. Pius X, when asked by a Zionist in 1904 whether the Church recognizes the Jewish people, replied:
“The Jewish religion was the true religion until the coming of Christ; but since that time it has ceased to be.”
— Pope St. Pius X
Therefore, to bless the true “Israel” today means to support the Church and remain faithful to Christ, not to give political or religious approval to those who reject the Messiah.
Do you think I care about your religion? Why would I? Not interesting in your Christ stuff. It’s yours. Not mine. Go preach somewhere else. I could care less.
Israel is for the Catholics-not the jews
It’s for the fundamentalist Protestants like the Baptists and other hopeful Armageddon-it’s.
How absurd
They aren't antiZionist in the way you are and want to equate them. They are against the state of Israel being formed by men and not by Moshiach. That is a big difference from your claims.
Nope. I’m a member of three Jewish groups, one an international organisation, and I’m aware of at least two other international Jewish organisations, that are absolutely antizionist. Plus it’s utterly irrelevant what Judaism says about the messiah. Worry about the Christians. Their fundamentalist Evangelicals, tens of millions of US voters, want their messiah so badly that they actively seek to precipitate the Apocalypse, which is why they support the war on Iran. We antizionist Jews in the diaspora are just fine without a supremacist settler colony in Palestine.
I can’t hear you
But, to what effect?
The shit show goes on, and on, and into Iran, and beyond !
No person, no believer, no living thing condones the madness of a demon other than a demon. Does that surprise you?
Yes I agree with you, apparently you must not be too familiar with their community though. The majority of the Israeli community are extremely un apologetically racist and extreme. Hence my shock to the article i read.
There are a great many Jewish people that recognize and comfortably discuss these truths. Unfortunately there are many, perhaps more, who were brainwashed as kids and have accordingly made no effort to understand the true history of Israel's brutality. And I kind of understand that. It is is a big deal to realize that many of the people one respected as kids were either lying or simply repeating the same propaganda by which they'd previously been poisoned.
Thanks for sharing Hitler.
Not surprised by your Ad Hominem attacks. We have to expect people like you to always make such ignorant comments.
Act like Hitler, I call you Hitler. You're scum. Like Trump.
"Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" remains undefeated
Until Islam changes, it will continue to be at war with the world.
Cannot change Gods words Nick. It’s not Islam thats the problem. If Islam wasn’t tolerant of other religions then why are there churches and synagogues all over West Asia and Africa that are 1500 plus years old. You poor fella you have been so indoctrinated by main stream media. You might need to take a class on the real history of the world. Not the one thats been written by pedophiles and Baal worshippers.Zionism attacks everything and leaves nothing to spare. Humanity itself is at risk!!!
The Quran isn't the word of God, I'm sorry to tell you.
Islam destroyed or replaced 90% of Christians, Jews and other religious groups in the middle east. Islam is the opposite of peaceful. You don't even know your own history.
Humanity is at risk from militant Islam. Not zionism, lol.
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Better a clown than an islamist 🤣
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Worship of the state is a big problem in the world today.
There are plenty that can talk about their IDF sisters and brothers …..but cowardly fathers that raised them that way
Allah isnt real. She is a delusional freak just like you who doesnt want peace but wants more dead palestinians for the 0.1 percent chancs they ethnically cleanse all israelis
there are some Jews who hold to these truths, and some of those are excellent journalists: Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate and his brother and father, Katie Halper, and Norm Finkelstein to name a few.
The Kapos. Worse than Kapos actually. Gross.
Thank you! It is what a lot of people believe now and attitudes to the Jews will not change until the Jews stand up and do whatever it takes to ensure they do not go down in history as Zionist pigs. This responsibility rests on no one else's shoulders and continuing to cry 'antisemitism!' will only make this thing worse. Nobody with a sense of humanity, decency and justice cares about this 'antisemitism' thing anymore. If anything, if has become a compliment. So thank you again for saying out loud what I believe a majority of humanity feels.
There is no difference with this and Islam/Islamophobia
Oh I’ll be a Zionist forever but you are swine. Nazi swine.
“ACKSHUALLY some Jews died 80 years ago!”
Yeah nobody cares about that card anymore.
I have no connection with Germany since 1886, haha, but I do register how automatically you revert to the race thing. Classic Zio move. Every accusation is a confession.
Being called an "antisemite" today is almost about as nutless as being called "anti-white"
The holocaust is documented. Your revisionist denial of those events has been debunked over and over again. Sorry you can't seem to grasp reality.
Yes, the west is quite aware of the crimes of the USSR, it's why we waged the cold war. We haven't forgotten the holodomor and neither has Ukraine.
Haha... yeah, the west is so aware of the holodomor... that's why every major city has a museum of the holodomor, the school curriculum is full of facts about it and it has its own annual remembrance day... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Next time you're out, pick few random people on the street and ask them about it... see how much they know.
And please... that's why "we waged the cold war" 😂😂😂 ... Firstly, the cold war was never waged, because... surprise, surprise - it wasn't a war but a platform for conducting social experiments on your own populations controlled at a level way beyond Washington and Moscow. Secondly - the mass extermination of people by the bolsheviks had nothing to do with it. And why would it?
Jeez... how can you people be so misinformed about so much. 🤦♂️ Your entire understanding of history is a series of pictures on TV screen.
That’s the kind of people you attract Holocaust deniers.
Do you have anything else to contribute, other than ad hominem labels? Guess not. After all, that's pretty much the entire basis for the holocaust narrative - fairytales (aka "witness testimonies") and outright dismissal of any counter arguments.
you interpreted one part of what they said without gathering the whole comment for context.
i interpreted their “to be called an antisemite nowadays is basically a compliment” to mean this: Zionists are blatantly using the word antisemite/antisemitism to label any person who rejects and demonizes Zionism, when morally it is Zionism which is evil. many famous people throughout history have been called an antisemite because they openly spoke out against the apartheid and genocide that’s killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians since the ‘70s. it is a compliment to be called an antisemite ONLY for the people who know that they are vilified with that label by white supremacist / Zionist groups trying to preserve the colonization legacy.
to be called a term you dont deserve by the evil group youre speaking out against means that you are doing the right thing, the ethical thing.
Thanks for your patient explanation! I’m pretty sure he got it, but in the zio conflation game it’s all the same thing. Conceptual analysis is not their thing: hasbara bullying is all that counts.
Zionism the belief in a Jewish state of Israel is not evil. Get a new hobby dipshit
if you want to talk to people like that, go back to twitter or 4chan. this aint the place for ignorance, nor is it home to people not looking to learn & gain many perspectives to see the big picture. you can keep that narrowness on threads or wherever you came from.
The whole thread is full of people ‘talking like that’ to Jews so quit whining snowflake.
I’d rather be called anti-Semitic than being called a genocidal maniac supporting a depraved society and enjoys watching the IOF blowing up and raping detainees. But I guess priorities eh?
The more desperate they get the more cuss words they use because obviously they don’t have enough vocabulary. Haha. Keep on cussing. You’re turning the whole world “anti-Semitic”. You know who’s also Semitic? Palestinians. Haha
“Oy vey! Muh antisemitism! Muh 6 million!”
Nobody fucking cares anymore.
Anyone affected, aside from a handful of people who were tiny kids, are long gone.
That card doesn’t work anymore.
Being called anti Semitic has become an over used Zionist trope. That slur has lost all meaning. It’s a compliment in the sense that being slurred by a Zio Nazi is an indication they are resorting to name calling.
Because antisemitic is one with a psychological trick to equate criticism of Isreal for its wars of conquest and Lealized murder, one with "hatred".
Tell me. Do you hate Jews just the right amount or maybe a tiny bit too much?
Every. Single. Word. of this. Thank you for so clearly and honestly writing down the totality of the brutal truth that Jews refuse to face.
A big read but worth it. You’re right. I love my Jewish friends who feel the same but they are a small minority. I have an increasing intolerance for Jews living in Australia supporting Israel’s genocide and crimes against humanity.
“I love the good Jews that kiss the ring” GFY
Thank you for this,a brave and lonely stand....
The answer is YOU Ms. Gelender.
You quote Latif Marouf who asks for our consideration,
“Where is the Jewish John Brown?” “Where is the Jewish Oskar Schindler?”
YOU.
Thank you so so much for this. So much of what you wrote are exactly how I’ve felt, but without knowing how to say it. Thank you for your fierce eloquence and moral clarity.
Wow fantastic article, thank you 🔥🙏🤎
Oh man, thank you a million times for this pure truth! I'm not Jewish but wondered about what it was/is for years. Growing up in the belly of the beast, I was often confused about whether or not it was a religion, or a country, or both. None of it made sense, much like my so-called education in Amerikkka that propagated the same bullshit lies regarding our origins. Fast forward to October 7th, and the layers of propaganda began to peel away at a faster rate. But with this particular writing, another very important lie has been revealed, and I can't thank you enough. Prior to reading this, I was also saying to myself--"there's a difference between jews and zionists..." in part because it seemed to make sense at the time. A couple of your statements made me realize that for Jews to just say that they are distinct from zionists...this is a form of idealism (the belief that what you say, or tell yourself, becomes the reality--something the entire US empire suffers from). And as such, it is delusional. It can only become materially true if and when jews use their bodies to fight against zionism. Some other thoughts that come to mind after reading this: doesn't this also mean that us white americans need to also physically put ourselves on the line, and help destroy the empire?! For anyone reading this, please go to uate.net. Thanks again for waking me up to the material world, the importance of basing our actions on that material world (because it is primary), and how we must fight against idealism. If these terms are confusing to anyone reading this (idealism vs materialism), educate yourself (Marx, Lenin, etc). It's very important.
She probably is risking her life by publishing this article given the fanaticism of the Zio Nazis. You on the other hand have just demonstrated her point about liberal “anti-Zionists”.
STFU Susan, stop larping, when time and time again it’s the Jewish institutions that are getting attacked by “antizionists”
louder for the idiots at the back of the house, Susan!!!
There is no difference. They share the same supremacist ideology that they are God's chosen people, and this God has instructed them to commit genocide many times already. So fuck you. You are the same.
We’re somehow forgetting that Christian Zionists are majority of the problem here (especially in the USA where everyone likes to bring up politicians and AIPAC). While their beliefs are rooted in antisemitism rather than supremacy, they’re aligned, just like Herzl said they needed to be to bring legitimacy to the settler colonial state of Israel. Zionists *want* everyone to conflate Zionism and Judaism, and it’s doing the world a monumental disservice to do so. Not only does that give rise to genuine antisemitism but it lends legitimacy to the idea of Israel needing to “defend itself” and provide a place of refuge for Jewish people. That’s why I will always die on the hill that we shouldn’t lean into Nazi rhetoric and make sure the framing is on Zionists (aka Jewish supremacists) and NOT Jewish people.
Burden of proof is shifting for Jews who do not want them conflated.
Yeah that feels like taking the bait and letting the billionaire imperialists and Christian extremists off the hook, as per usual.
Not at all for letting them off the hook, but Jewish identity is in crisis here.
if the author is not correct in any way, then why are you so defensive? i mean, if in fact there is a difference between zio's and jews, then why not just go on about whatever it is you do, and ignore her thesis? I think you are missing her point completely, and, there's a part of you that KNOWS she is correct. Until the people in group A (jews) militantly fight against the people in group B (zio genocider maniacs), the two will be forever linked. Zio's use the jewish religion and the holocaust all the time to justify their actions--case in point. there has to be a real distinction made, and not just with words. and you're right, others also need to take up arms. the question then becomes, how, exactly.
Would you make the same argument about all Muslims being obligated to stand up to injustice that exist in the Muslim world? How about all Christian Zionists? What responsibility do they have? If you live in the US, or any Western nation, you benefit from historical genocide and ethnic cleansing. What are you doing to make penance for your entitlement? This is the type of guilt ridden post that puts the onus of action on other people, while placing themselves on a pedestal. Nothing is stopping the author from moving to the West Bank and being the type of activist she is calling on everyone else to be.
do you know that for sure? that there is nothing that is stopping her? maybe she’s talking more about collective and militant action from all jewish synagogues and organizations. that’s my take. for my penance, i’m continuing to educate myself because that’s a long road. i’ve also joined this group: uate.net, who has a VERY specific and detailed plan of action, like no other leftist group i’ve encountered or joined in the past. in a way, you make a good point. i think we are all in the bad habit of wanting “other people” to do the dirty work. or wanting other people to do the organizing. on the other hand, isn’t that her point, or at least part of it. like you say, if we as westerners are benefiting from these genocides, and we are, isn’t it time we realize that fact, and take action. stop talking about it. and actually do something? the fact that you, or I, “feel” guilty is irrelevant. all that matters is what we do.
Somebody’s hit a nerve.
Yes yes yes thank you at last some real honesty and humanity
WOOW
Full support
Every word
❤️
I see many Jews protest the genocide, but not necessarily the existence of Israel. The existence of Israel is WHY the genocide happened. Israel’s existence was an oppressive colonial project from the very start. Free Palestine forever 🇵🇸
Israel exists because their religion fundamentally believes they are superior, God's chosen people. It can never be tolerated to exist for this reason.
Being God's chosen people is a charge by God given to the Jewish people to be righteous people who follow the Torah.
There are Haredi Jews which protest the existence of the Zionists state.
As a white person I think the same can be said for white guilt and career activists of my persuassion as well. There is nothing Israel has done that we as americans and english and french and german etc have not also done. I want more white people to stand on business like you have here
And many many other races and groups. Humans are humans everywhere.
Islam and Africans have been horrendous as well.
Why do they get a pass?
So, we can say the same for Islam too?
You are the first Jew who is publicly saying that on my Substack feed. I wonder if it’s possible. It’s like whiteness for white people meaning people benefit somehow from this ideology.
Islamist for Muslims too?
I have very limited understanding of Islam and Muslims. And I don’t believe government propaganda.
You need a psychiatrist.
The whole article is bullshit and false claims.